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 Post subject: Your thoughts on assisted suicide
PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2004 8:57 pm 
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Personally, I believe euthanasia should be legal. Here is an article from MSNBC News that I just read:

Oregon assisted suicide law upheld

Law is the only one of its kind in the nation

The Associated Press
Updated: 4:29 p.m. ET May 26, 2004
SAN FRANCISCO

A federal appeals court Wednesday declared the Bush administration has no right to interfere with Oregon’s assisted suicide law, the only one in the country to allow doctors to help patients end their lives.

In a 2-1 ruling, the 9th U.S. Circuit of Appeals said Attorney General John Ashcroft cannot sanction or hold doctors criminally liable for prescribing overdoses under Oregon’s voter-approved Death With Dignity Act.

“The attorney general’s unilateral attempt to regulate general medical practices historically entrusted to state lawmakers interferes with the democratic debate about physician-assisted suicide,” Circuit Judge Richard Tallman said. He said Ashcroft’s threat to take action “far exceeds the scope of his authority under federal law.”

An Oregon official hailed the ruling as a victory for the states.

“From our perspective, this is a clear defense not just of the Death With Dignity Act, but a clear defense of a state’s authority to regulate its own medical practices,” said Kevin Neely, spokesman for Oregon Attorney General Hardy Myers.

Voters approved, affirmed law
Oregon voters approved the Death With Dignity Act in 1994 and overwhelmingly affirmed it three years later. The law allows terminally ill patients with less than six months to live to request a lethal dose of drugs. Two doctors must confirm the diagnosis and determine the patient to be mentally competent to make the request.

Since 1998, at least 171 people have used Oregon’s law to end their lives, according to state records. Most suffered from cancer.

In 1997, the U.S. Supreme Court said that there is no constitutional right to assisted suicide but that states may decide the issue for themselves without federal interference.

Later, the Bush administration Justice Department concluded that suicide is not a “legitimate medical purpose” under the Controlled Substances Act, the federal law declaring what drugs doctors may prescribe. The department threatened to punish doctors by revoking the federal licenses they need to prescribe medicine.

Oregon countered by arguing that regulating and licensing doctors generally has been the sole responsibility of the states. Oregon also said that Congress intended only to prevent illegal drug trafficking by doctors under the Controlled Substances Act, and that it left decisions about medical practice up to the states.

Judge rebuffs Justice Department
In 2002, a federal judge in Portland, Ore., ruled against the Justice Department. In a rebuke to Ashcroft, U.S. District Judge Robert Jones said that the Controlled Substances Act does not give the federal government the power to say what is a legitimate medical practice.

In a similar 1996 case from Washington state, the 9th Circuit ruled that assisted suicide was permitted because there was a constitutional right to die. That decision meant Washington state could not prosecute doctors who aided their patients’ deaths.

In a dissent Wednesday, Circuit Judge J. Clifford Wallace said the courts should give “substantial deference” to the attorney general’s findings in the absence of a clear congressional policy.

“Certainly, Congress is free to enact legislation limiting or counteracting the Ashcroft directive’s effects,” Wallace said.

© 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.


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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 5:39 am 
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i dont think of suicide .

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as a person who values my quality of life, if my pain ever exceeds the joy the gets brough into my life, i really wish it were legal to kill myself.... and i really wish i could go through it with as little difficulty as possible... id want to be the one doing the final injection, or pushing the button that sets the death machine into motion... but id like someone to let me know how to do it proper...

and as an american, and a libertarian... its my right to do whatever the fuck i want

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well then, if i ever wanna die im gonna goto Oregon

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Im Carl, i dont mind being called fascination though... especially since someone by the name of Jason has a screen name called "carl"... LAME-O

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I think suicide (in any manner) is a cheap way out. I dont know how people's minds think who contemplate suicide. However, I do think that its anyones right to take their own life if they so choose. Its just not right for someone else to take the life of another human being (I.E. assisted suicide). If you're gonna do it, get the advice of someone but do it yourself. Like the people above me said it.

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this kid tried to kill himself by milking the venom of a rattlesnake, sucking it into a syringe and then injecting into his ac. I was a near success but I think almost a month later he walked out of the hospital, with a new found love for life.

If I have some sort of illness or injury that takes away from my life or my ability to really be happy. I'd want to die. Living in pain or sickness, confined to a bed isn't living.

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ps. working in the emergency room is very humbling and makes me appreciate being able to take a big deep breath whenever I want.

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the medical field has created a type of protocol that allows some one to not be resesitated if in any event they die..it's called a DNR, i see them all the time in my line of work(EMS)..a couple of weeks ago me and my partner had to honor one of them...it sucked cause every part of me was screaming for me to do somehting....the pt was in V-Fib and we couldn't shock the pt or give the pt iany megacode drugs(atropine or lidocaine):( :(

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HumanCarl wrote:
as a person who values my quality of life, if my pain ever exceeds the joy the gets brough into my life, i really wish it were legal to kill myself.... and i really wish i could go through it with as little difficulty as possible... id want to be the one doing the final injection, or pushing the button that sets the death machine into motion... but id like someone to let me know how to do it proper...

and as an american, and a libertarian... its my right to do whatever the fuck i want


that is so fucking weak.

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or maybe it is weak of people to try to keep others alive just a while longer when they know that the ones they are trying to keep alive have more pain and misery ahead than anything else

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