for those of you who don't frequent http://www.infowars.com quite as often as i do, here is a great article that outlines the globalists plans. not a coincidence!

http://infowars.net/articles/july2006/260706WWIII.htm

I find it very hard to believe that any person or group of people could predict how wars occurring over a hundred years in the future would turn out. And I don't see any references for the supposed masonic quotes either. Very skeptical I am.

one long excerpt from an essay by Myran Fagan. i didn't really read just glanced over to find Captain Morgan's (HA!) name for a reference. will bookmark and read tomorrow...too late, too sleepy right now. just more evidence to show that dude was real and did speak out about the Illuminati and their grandscheme.

"In 1826; one Captain William Morgan decided it was his duty to inform all Masons and the general public what the full proof was regarding the Illuminati, their secret plans, intended objectives, and to reveal the identities of the masterminds of the conspiracy. The Illuminati promptly tried Morgan in absentia and convicted him of treason. They ordered one Richard Howard, an English Illuminist, to carry-out their sentence of execution as a traitor. Morgan was warned and he tried to escape to Canada, but Howard caught up with him near the border; near the Niagara Gorge to be exact, where he murdered him. This was verified in a sworn statement made in New York by one Avery Allen to the effect that he heard Howard render his report of the execution to a meeting of "Knights Templars" in St. John's Hall in New York. He also told how arrangements had been made to ship Howard back to England. That Allen affidavit is on record in New York City Archives. Very few Masons and very few of the general-public know that general-disapproval over that incident of murder caused approximately half of all the Masons in the northern jurisdiction of the United States to secede. Copies of the minutes of the meeting held to discuss that matter are still in existence in safe hands and that all that secrecy emphasizes the power of the masterminds of the Illuminati to prevent such terrible events of history from being taught in our schools.

I'm not sure how this article pertains to the war, politics or current events.

plz MORE infowar REFERENCES. its TOO LEGIT TO QUIT.


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BLACK ROFLCOPTERS ARE COMING TO GET YOU!!!!!

you know, if somebody could please show me one shred of evidence to back up this statement i'd love to believe it.

the problem is that i've followed alex jones for years, and all his claims are well documented. when i first started listening to him i would actually read all the articles he referenced... and they really are all from mainstream news sources. if you would actually take the time to look up the information yourself instead of just writing it off because you or one of your friends think it "sounds" crazy then you'd know.


but seriously, i'd love to know that history is not repeating itself here. just give me:

- a documented claim by alex jones

- a public document that contradicts that claim


i've been asking around for that evidence for years, nobody has been able to give it.

you could drive yourself insane trying to prove alex jones's conspiracy theories.
it just goes round in circles and round in circles. Ive checked out a couple of his vids, and they start off believable and actually quite sane. Its when he gets into prophesizing a world where bush and the rest of the power structure are drinking the blood of innocents atop a throne next to satan himself. thats usually where i start to get a little skeptical.

A rational person would tend to believe that, if this massive conspiracy existed, then they would take him out.

I do give him credit for exposing the links between, the saudi roya family and bush, also links between the bin laden family and bush. but this isnt some massive cover up here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occams_razor

that's the same old crap i usually hear from skeptics like you.

"it's wrong just because... it's wrong."

never any actual proof to the claim. in fact, you even had to make up a strawman argument just to make your claim SOUND feasable:

i imagine you're talking about bohemian grove.

- alex himself never claimed that bush was there

- he never claimed anything about blood drinking or satan


not the case at all. if he were to die mysteriously not only would it prove him right, but somebody else would quickly take his place. not only that, but alex has way too many "friends in the biz" for anybody to get away clean with his murder. the elite are much better off just trying to brainwash people into thinking he's a nut (and in your case, they're succeeding).


do you really think politics is as simple as occam's razor? politics is not that simple. if you want to implement that method of thought, why don't you just follow the money. who's got it, who prints it, what do they do and who do they hang out with? what are their motives? alex doesn't so much answer these questions himself as he does point you to where the answers are.

no, he talks about bush sitting at the right hand of satan and drinking blood of the blah blah blah, in his video where he"uncovers" 911



you know, what though you win.

i was a fool for taking up a fools argument. ill never win against a conspiracy theorist, and i accept that.

ps. chill homie. you dont have to insult my post, but your more than welcome to do so. lets not get hot headed here. esp over something as silly as conspiracy hehe.

I'll say it again, it's not about anyone proving anyone else wrong, it's about the person making the claims proving himself right.

you'll have to be more specific, he's got like 3 documentaries about 9-11.


if you're talking to moe, i agree. if you're going to claim that it's not legit, then back it up.

if you're talking to me, then it's pretty public knowledge that albert pike and giusseppe mazzini were in the illuminati together. if you read pike's book (available online here or here) him writing something like this isn't that far fetched at all. i mean it is very clear that he's talking about a secret society here. even if the letter between them was fabricated by "conspiracy theorists" it sure is a pretty astounding coincidence, and regardless these world leaders were really up to some really freaky shit even back then.

I guess Josh believes in guilty until proven innocent as long as the accusations are coming from fellow conspiracy theorists and are directed towards the US govt, Bush or anyone else Josh doesn't like.

I find Alex Jones fairly entertaining. 95% of the stuff coming out of his mouth is right on the money with no debate and I'd like to hear more people spouting unleashed truths the way he does. The problem is that other 5% that hangs over his head like a neon sign that says "schitzo inside".
You see, I have many of the same feelings that Alex has, but for different reasons. Alex thinks there are actually evil people in the world that do things because they relish in evilness. I on the other hand believe that evil is not a human attribute but rather a byproduct of ignorance and fear. I don't think we should be pointing fingers at people, but the istitutions that tell them what to do. Rather than exposing a bunch of wealthy loosers that have nothing better to do than play dress up orgy in the woods, he should be tagging along with Micheal Moore and exposing the most powerfull institutions in the world like Wal-Mart, Tyco, Halibuton, ect.

hey, at least people are talking!
it is a shite state of affairs.
Bush is just a puppet.
The Federal Reserve / World Bank should be abolished.
9/11 was an inside job
what about the war games?
and Building 7 collapsed for no fuggin reason!!!
Money IS the root of all evil
"mo money mo problems"

EVERYONE READ!!!

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science ... page=3&c=y

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science ... page=5&c=y

huh?

dude this statement is so far off i don't even know where to begin with it.


everybody deserves to be innocent until proven guilty, but at the same time you've got to solve crimes here. take 9-11 for instance, who's got the motive? the taliban had everything to lose, whereas america's secret services had everything to gain. now y'all are going to sit here and call anyone a skitzo who questions the explainations given by the suspects who've got all the motive?


read the fucking book i posted. these aren't accusations from me, these are confessions from them. you would have to be a delusional moron not to see that.


jesus h. christ people, do some fucking research already and quit taking everything at face value that the controlled media is feeding you.

And Infowars isn't controlled media? Here we go...



Information was left out of this statement. When the UN passes a cease-fire resolution via the security council, all five permanent members (US, UK, China, Russia, and France) vote unanimously. There have been countless times when other countries were going to veto a resolution that seemed obviously plausible. It's politics.

I believe there should be peace, but at the same time, a cease-fire right would not stand for more than a week. Why waste the energy on a cease-fire when you know it isn't going to last? It's the Kofi Annan attitude. While this guy is absolutely brilliant, he can't iron fist a situation when it is needed. When four unarmed UN observers were killed in an Israeli strike, it isn't him that conducts an investigation, it's Israel. The most important body of government to conduct that investigation is the UN, not the nation who conducted the attack. That's stupid.

Check this out...



Chicago Tribune EDITORIAL. It's an argument- an opinion. That is one source to back up his statement of "The US media is for the most part hideously spewing out what will inevitably be written in the history books."

BUT he immediately cites an Associated Press article that contains the contrary. This:



Moreover, the damn article links to FORBES.

And then there is this:



"Killing UN observers ON PURPOSE" is not the same as "deliberate targeting by Israeli Defense Forces of a U.N. Observer post." Those are two different things. The coordinated message by Infowars is "Israel intended to kill four UN observers on purpose" when no one really knows as of yet their true intent. The point is that the wording of the original article was altered to serve the Infowars agenda.

Then this:



"State leaders" is plural even though the hyperlinked article only refers to one "state leaders," Putin. Furthermore, the wording of the paragraph itself misleads a person to believe, without clicking the link, that Israel is confessing, the connotation of admitting. However, Putin is not admitting, he is stating his opinion. The word 'admit' never appears in that article.

GASP! Did Infowars just use newspeak? I'm not really surprised.

And then there is all that bullshit about Albert Pike.

A picture of an explosion doesn't convince me of World War III. Why this conflict? Why not all the other countless conflicts since 1948? By the way, Israel suspended all airstrikes.

So is this controlled media or what?

i'm not saying that "infowars" doesn't use newspeak (btw, you just made the same mistake as this guy did with putin, by saying that an opinion in an editorial by one man represents the entire staff). i'm just saying that before people make hasty decisions about things they need to examine all the facts before making generalizations like "infowars is full of shit" or "msnbc is full of shit" or anything. all media is biased, nobody really has all the facts, nor the time to go over all of them in one editorial.

another thing... about the UN... you say that "all five permanent members (US, UK, China, Russia, and France) vote unanimously." which is completely misleading. at no point does any citizen of any of those countries have any say... it's all done by their representatives. who are those representatives and who appointed them? what are their motives, do they actually align with the rest of their countries?

Yeah, but the fact that those five countries disagree all the time shows at least a disallignment, and everything I've been told about the illuminati and all that ratshit is that they have a clear goal, and they get there much easier than the UN. Which one is it?

And for that first comment, uhhh no. I have no idea what you are talking about. Do you want me to go through every infowars article and point out all the fearspeak and newspeak?

of course you have no idea dude, you wouldn't want to bruise your ego or anything

most of the articles i've read on infowars are straight forward in my opinion, just stating the facts. not only that, but what you refer to as fearspeak or newspeak is highly subjective, so you really aren't making any factual points other than your own opinion based upon your own distorted worldview, just like we all do.

don't get me wrong though, i'm no big supporter of alex either. if you ask me, he's just controlled opposition. that doesn't mean the information he provides is wrong all the time.

Undoubtedly so. I think it's a great viewpoint, but I take all my news with a grain of salt. Also, don't say everyone here gets their news from controlled media when you do to.

Josh, when you wake up in the morning, do you eat a nice big bowl of ridiculous?

i didn't see this, must have been a ninja edit.

the fun part about using knowledge to predict the future is that time will either prove me right or it won't. what you believe makes no difference to me whatsoever. just about every pioneer when it comes to intellectualism has been called ridiculous by their pseudo-intellectual sycophant peers.


i read my news and history just like everyone else. i'm no moron, i've been clinicly cleared of any abnormal paranoia disorders, and my opinion is just as valid as anyone else's. in fact, considering how much time i've spent reading up on this stuff from multiple sources (in other words, not just the mass media conglomerate but independants as well) i'd venture to say that my opinion is more valid than most.

in fact after all i've read and seen, if you ask me, you have to be a complete dilusional moron to not see the fact that there's a totalitarian government on the rise (and has been for hundreds of years). i mean for christ's sake... there's video footage all over the internet of alex jones getting arrested at a press conference for asking an elite a real question. yet you're going to sit here and tell me we have a free press? i'd like to say that's laughable, but i feel sorry for you more than anything else if you think that.

What you just said reminds me of this quote:

"It seems to me like 19 amateurs with boxcutters taking over four commercial airliners and hitting 75 percent of their targets, that feels like a conspiracy theory." -Charlie Sheen

I just finished listening to an interview of Noam Chomsky by Alex Jones. If you don't know who Chomsky is, you need to go get educated about the guy. He's got alot more to offer than Mr. Jones. Towards the end of the interview, he has a couple of differences with Chomsky and starts talking over him. He ends up calling Chomsky a "New World Order Schill. I've got twice the brain as him with both hands tied behind my back." Take note Chomsky is a professor at MIT.
All I've got to say after that is "Fuck you Alex. You are a mildly educated backwoods moron with a big mouth."
I hope the "New World Order" abducts this asshole, lets Cheney give him butt sex and then releases him in the middle of the Congo.
He's got a few things straight, but he's so dead set on pushing his schitzoid ideas that he's worthless to me. And after hearing him fuck over Chomsky like that, I'm putting him in the same boat as Limbaugh.
Hey, they even sound the same.