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personally, i think it's intended as nothing more than a fun show, but that unfortunately it borders way too close to minstrel show. i think most people would say it just plain is one.

i guess i'm just thinking that, for example: i was raised jewish, and even though i'm hardly religous, i wouldn't like the idea of a show were eccentric jews ran around acting sterotypical.

andy

I remember thinking exactly that when I first seen the preview.

I really like that show. I the blonde one. I want them to give me a makeover even though I don't need one and I'm not a straight guy.

Personally I find it exploitive. It follows along all film lines. Remember the emergence of blaxploitation?

I disagree with the homosexual lifestyle, and that will never change. However anyone who knows me know I simultaneously disagree with the exploitation of anyone, as well as stand against the various acts of oppression or damaging actions against a people. (Matthew Shephard being the most obvious case known to the general public.)

No people should have to fear for their lives, nor should they have to be stereotyped at every angle. However I also know a lot of people who feel this show is a good step towards exposure.

I also know a lot of people who feel it's only a step backwards.

i'm torn.

On the one hand, it's based on the stereotypical queen with good taste and lots of money. There are many many more gays out there that are low to middle income, slobby and more "straight" than "queer".

However, the show is supportive of the new metrosexual (straight guys that pay attention to and enjoy the arts, grooming, etc. etc.) which can be construed as queering the polar opposite of the effeminite, campy, homosexual: the masculine, uncultured, heterosexual male. This skews the gender paradigm in turn liberating straight men from their "oh so straight" attitude and lifestyle, all the while bringing queers into the visible and admirable fold of cultural icons.

I agree with shants, I think it just writes into the stereotype of fags.

The flamers that have thier rainbow stickers, go to the parade everyyear in thier sequence g string, and were an I'M gay YAY! sticker on thier ass. All of them are way to gay for reality. One of them was wearing a pink shirt...

They should of had like the carpenter gay, or like handy gay. They are all very queen in nature, and I think they should have balanced it out.

I also kinda think it could breed fear into some straight guys, if forced to watch the show (by thier womens). That blond guy hits on everyone, and I bet that makes some straight guys watching the show a little freaked, that all gay guys are gonna hit on them. Or some other weird fucked up stereotype.

However I also think that it is good as to show that men need to clean up some and stop being beer swilling assholes that watch the game and make thier women cook and clean...I like that part!

i hereby revoke your manhood.

Truthfully if that is what it means to be a man, then I could give a flying fuck if I lost my man card.

ziggie zaggie ziggie zaggie oi oi oi!

eh i saw the previews...i think it serves to bring homosexuals even more into the mainstream....i mean jesus....every 16yr old girl nowadays is claiming to be bi because of those 2 chicks that sang that "all the things you say" song....
its the cool thing to do now....
however, i do not see being a flamer as being cool anytime soon.
straight men are too proud. most wont even get anywhere near that show.

i think the show is harmless. just another twist on "will and grace" in order to get a few ratings.

now get me some dinner and bring me a beer, WOMAN!
the damn cowboys are on...

i'd have to agree with the que-ster.

I won't watch the show. I hate Will and Grace!

But the carpenter and handy gays aren't going to want to be giving people make overs. It's the flamboyant ones who like that sort of thing (generalization, I know, but seriously, if a gay carpenter wanted to do interior design, he'd do interior design, not carpentry).

I also disagree about it breeding fear into some straight guys. A non-homophobic guy isn't going to all of a sudden be afraid of being hit on by a gay guy just because he watches that show. If he was going to be scared about that, he would be scared about it already.

Weve all heard the question..."would you do anything gay for money" and everyone's answer varies (personally im a big N O) But what about acting gay? I seriously doubt some of them are gay. Well, the blondy no doubt, but if I was a chef or a designer, and I was given the chance to be on TV, travel around the US all the time, get a shit load of cash money, and be forgotten within two years, but the catch was that I had to act gay, i'd say hells yeah

what makes you say that one of the Fab 5 isn't gay?

remember: when you assume you make an ass out of u and me

As a gay dude, I think this show sucks... it just seems to reinforce certain stereotypes about gay guys that society is more than willing to believe. I don't have a problem with effeminate guys, just with the cookie cutter portrayal of gay men on this show. But hey, most people are surprised when they figure out the direction of my swing. I definitely don't try and hide it from people, but some people expect gay folk to all be a certain way.

As for it making straight guys afraid of getting hit on by gay men, I have to say I agree that I don't see a TV show making much of a change in that. I find it annoying that some straight dudes think every gay man is out to mack on them. They shouldn't be so worried. Not too many boys I know are into straight men. Sounds like a road to unhappiness if I've ever heard of one. Luckily, a lot of straight guys are smart enough to get the picture. Being a rock-n-roll musician, a majority of my friends are straight, and none of them seem too worried about me or other queers hitting on them. However, I've also had guys claim to be "straight" and then hit on ME, which I think shows some serious insecurity. If some boy I think is snappin' turns out to be straight (or even claims to be straight), I back the fuck off. Got too much pride for that shit.

a fag is a fag is a fag who cares about which sterotypes are which.

Judas Priest

Are you in high school? Grow up a little. I don't assume all straight folk are rednecked homophobes.

As for judas priest: rob halford has one hell of a voice. ah, soundtrack for teenage fuckin-off .

Are you in high school? Grow up a little. I don't assume all straight folk are rednecked homophobes.

As for judas priest: rob halford has one hell of a voice. ah, soundtrack for teenage fuckin-off .

not since long ago

growing up = overrated

thats not true man... i know some gay people that you would never even suspect that they were that way. and they are for the most part cool about it (not flaunting it). ... i do,however, have a problem with this culture of gays that seems to be thriving on the fact that they are different by being more rediculously fem than women themselves. all the rainbows and pink and stupid accents and stickers and all the gay pride bullshit is fucking lame. i dont walk around with a shirt that say's "heterosexual pride".

i think all of this may be some sort of throw-back at society for the recent (last 300 years) conversion to homophobia as opposed to accepting it as part of our culture ...

I equate the current gay pride movement with the black pride movment of the 60's/70's. It's only natural for the opressed to react in such a way. I'm sure there were tons of white people back then saying "I don't have a problem with black people but wtf is up with the Black Panthers?!"

Yup....what does one do if one wants to be heard? Make some noise!

I think this show is retarded; but it can just join the club of shows which use exploitation for capitalization. America is amazing in that we can take a discrimated against group of people (homosexuals, especially gay men) and exploit them to make a profitable television show. And all this show does is enforce negative ideas people have about gay men in general. Here is an idea -- why don't they create a new version of Jeopardy, but instead of putting intelligent people on the show, they feature only the mentally challenged and ask them the same questions with the intent of making them look unintelligent. How well would that go over?

They could not have used more stereotypical, affeminate gay men for this show. Don't get me wrong -- I am gay, and while I have 0 problem with affeminate gay men, I don't think this show really gives people the right idea. Generally I do not have gay friends, for the specific reason that their life revolves around their sexual preference (gay bars, gay pride, etc.); with me it is merely another trait of mine and nothing more. I do not go to gay bars, I do not go to Gay Pride, and I do not feel the need to attract all possible attention to the fact that I am gay. But I do have a boyfriend and have been in a happy, monogamous relationship with him for about a year and a half.

This show is disgusting. People who are not educated or informed are easily led to believe that the way these gay men act on the show are how ALL gay men act, when in reality that is so far from the truth. I've watched the show once and only once, so I really was not aware that one of them constantly hit on and made remarks to the straight guy, but that too is ridiculous.

I would say 90% of gay men would NEVER hit on another man if they knew he was straight. Most of them are not stupid and are not going to waste their time on an endeavour which would simply hurt or embarrass them. That and there are plenty of gay men out there. I am not saying there aren't exceptions, but in either case, there is no reason a straight man should be afraid of this happening. Even if it does, simple communication works wonders.

I am all for increased acceptance of homosexuals, but I don't think shows like this are intended or ever will help that cause. I mean, hell, when I tell someone I am gay I really don't want the first coming into their mind about me to be from Queer Eye. I don't talk like a woman, I don't wax my eyebrows, I don't shop at Banana Republic, and I don't make suggestive homoerotic comments for shock value. Some gay men do, and if they are happy doing this, then more power to them. But it is NOT fair that this show decided it would forego demonstrating the existence of "normal" gay men in favor of putting the four gayest men possible on the air to make the show more marketable.

And as for the name calling on here -- how sad. You would think this country would learn after everything the African American race went through that discrimination and hatred based upon unalterable personal traits is extremely backward thinking. Yet we still have people on here with nothing better to do than say "a fag is a fag is a fag is a fag." Anyone like that is and will continue to be nothing but a detriment to our society.

I understand that some people were raised with the idea that homosexuality was evil or wrong -- for whatever reason. But at some point in your life you need to start thinking on your own, looking at the facts, and realize that there is little room or use in this world for people who still think like this. People do NOT choose to be homosexual -- just as people do NOT choose to be heterosexual. And to me, at this point, acceptance is not even the immediate goal, but simply tolerance. You do not have to approve or like their lifestyle, but you need to respect it and understand that homosexuals are really not all that different than heterosexuals.

Our society has a lot of growing up to do -- I am thankful that THIS generation is one of the first where I feel a majority of people are more accepting and understanding of differences. But, as seen in this post, there are always those people dangling behind on the mental evolutionary path.

Peace & Respect

CRAB PEOPLE

There is a weaker race that live inside the bodies of the fab 5 and they are called CRAB PEOPLE. They want to take over the world but they must 1st make us all weak and faggy.