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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:51 pm 
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To add to my fears about Conan and Bush, the government has sought to expand its illegal warrantless wiretap program.

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Don't take my crazy psychotic word for it. Look at the thousands of others commenting on this very subject.


http://www.aclu.org/safefree/nsaspying/index.html

http://www.aclu.org/safefree/nsaspying/30372prs20070706.html

Here are some talking points when you call your respective politicians

Even if you pass a bill with a 90-day sunset, it will allow Bush to control the debate and will put the ball in his court, enabling him to exploit our fears in order to keep these powers forever.

The Bush administration spied on Americans for five years illegally and now they want to make their activities legal. These activities are not legal now, and they should NOT EVER be legal.

President Bush misrepresented the facts to Congress and the American people in his Saturday radio address, when he implied that FISA was out of date and hadn’t been updated since 1978. In fact, it has been updated more than 50 times since 1978, including many times during the current administration.

The director of the NSA admitted that the government does not need warrants to intercept overseas calls. Even if it did, there have been bipartisan bills proposed for over a year that would clarify these foreign calls do not need a warrant. But they were all summarily rejected by the Administration. So what do they really want? They want warrantless wiretapping. Period.

Bush said in his Saturday radio address, “Today we face sophisticated terrorists who use disposable cell phones and the Internet to communicate with each other, recruit operatives, and plan attacks on our country. Technologies like these were not available when FISA was passed nearly 30 years ago, and FISA has not kept up with new technological developments.” But FISA is technology-neutral: it allows the government to spy on any technology, as long as they follow the rules.

President Bush has not yet responded to subpoenas from the Senate Judiciary Committee demanding the legal rationale for the NSA program. If you modify the law now, it is unlikely they will ever comply with these requests in a meaningful way.

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It appears Orwell may have been some sort of modern day prophet. We might have to move 1984 out the fiction section. It has become historic.

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I need to read 1984.

I'm going to add Huxley's Brave New World to that list. I adore him.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=S7_YFKyhQMI

"The most important lesson of history is that nobody ever learns history's lesson" -Aldous Huxley

What is Swastika Night?


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Swastika Night is a futuristic novel published by "Murray Constantine" in 1937 and republished in 1940. Its author's name was a pseudonym for Katharine Burdekin. Swastika Night was a Left Book Club selection in 1940.

The novel is based on Hitler's claims that Nazism would create a "Thousand Year Reich". Despite its similarity to an alternate history novel, the text, written prior to World War II, plays out in a way which is extreme though believable, considering the peculiar character of the Nazi State. At the time of writing, the book was not an alternate history but rather a plausible future history, which did not come true.

The novel bears striking similarities to Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four, published more than a decade later: the past has been destroyed and history is rewritten, language is distorted, few books exist apart from propaganda, and a secret book is the only witness to the past.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:37 pm 
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Already passed. I will be checking to see who voted for what and list the culprits.

Here is an article from Wired from a week after the 11th of 01.

http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2001/09/46953

Actual Bill text

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:2:./temp/~c110Gpa8d4::

ACLU's objection response

http://www.aclu.org/safefree/nsaspying/31194prs20070804.html

Another article

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/08/05/house_votes_with_bush_on_surveillance/

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Here is a list of the traitors, I mean Democrats that voted for this legislation.

Senate:

Evan Bayh

Tom Carper

Bob Casey

Kent Conrad

Dianne Feinstein

Daniel Inouye

Amy Klobuchar

Mary Landrieu

Blanche Lincoln

Claire McCaskill

Barbara Mikulski

Bill Nelson

Ben Nelson

Mark Pryor

Ken Salazar

Jim Webb (ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?)

House:

Jason Altmire (4th Pennsylvania)
John Barrow (12th Georgia) Blue Dog
Melissa Bean (8th Illinois) Blue Dog
Dan Boren (2nd Oklahoma) Blue Dog
Leonard Boswell (3rd Iowa)
Allen Boyd (2nd Florida) Blue Dog
Christopher Carney (10th Pennsylvania) Blue Dog
Ben Chandler (6th Kentucky) Blue Dog
Jim Cooper (5th Tennessee) Blue Dog
Jim Costa (20th California) Blue Dog
Bud Cramer (5th Alabama) Blue Dog
Henry Cuellar (28th Texas)
Artur Davis (7th Alabama)
Lincoln Davis (4th Tennessee) Blue Dog
Joe Donnelly (2nd Indiana) Blue Dog
Chet Edwards (17th Texas)
Brad Ellsworth (8th Indiana) Blue Dog
Bob Etheridge (North Carolina)
Bart Gordon (6th Tennessee) Blue Dog
Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (South Dakota) Blue Dog
Brian Higgins (27th New York)
Baron Hill (9th Indiana) Blue Dog
Nick Lampson (23rd Texas) Blue Dog
Daniel Lipinski (3rd Illinois)
Jim Marshall (8th Georgia) Blue Dog
Jim Matheson (2nd Utah) Blue Dog
Mike McIntyre (7th North Carolina) Blue Dog
Charlie Melancon (3rd Louisiana) Blue Dog
Harry Mitchell (5th Arizona)
Colin Peterson (7th Minnesota) Blue Dog
Earl Pomeroy (North Dakota) Blue Dog
Ciro Rodriguez (23rd Texas) Blue Dog
Mike Ross (4th Arkansas) Blue Dog
John Salazar (3rd Colorado) Blue Dog
Heath Shuler (11th North Carolina) Blue Dog
Vic Snyder (2nd Arkansas)
Zachary Space (18th Ohio) Blue Dog
John Tanner (8th Tennessee) Blue Dog
Gene Taylor (4th Mississippi) Blue Dog
Timothy Walz (1st Minnesota)
Charles A. Wilson (6th Ohio) Blue Dog

Notice how many idiots are from Texas. Maybe on Disgrace the Nation, someone might own up to this?

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Fuckin' demmies...

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a c i d.f l y wrote:
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Fuckin' demmies...


All the same really. I like moderates, or people with new ideas. Although, apparently blue dog means stab nation in back many times over.

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