Another blow to Microsoft's continued Apple-like closed online gaming model. I will pick up the PC version which probably won't be as sharp as the PS3, due to my card. The xbox live service continues to be the biggest disapointment with subscription based gaming. With little attention payed to good connections, no server support, and over priced half-assed games. Microsoft continues to shoot not only itself, but its customer's in the foot. Making consumers pay sixty dollars for half a completed game, which needs to be patched as soon as you get the game, then charging its user base for content that is free elsewhere(maps, mods, horse armor). This continues to be a strong reason to leave the MS camp and go to Sony. Who would have ever thought Sony would be more reasonable and open than MS? Who else wants to pay 60 bucks for a half game? Then buy the rest later via micro-transaction hell. A few more titles like that and its adios 360. I might be putting both 360's up for sale. My original(which is in repair 2-3 weeks), and my second unit(I had to buy due to MS not fixing original initially). Everytime I turn on my 360, I feel like I have been ripped off.


http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/unrealtournament2007/news.html?sid=6174170&om_act=convert&om_clk=newsfeatures&tag=newsfeatures;title;1

Speaking to GameSpot, the irrepressible Rein laughed off any suggestion that Sony might have offered Epic financial incentives to keep UTIII a PS3 exclusive. "There's nothing sinister about it," he said, laughing. "It's just the PS3 and PC version of the games are compatible, because Sony has an open-source platform." Rein didn't clarify if he meant simply that the development process was compatible, or whether the game would allow for cross-platform play.

Hey look Dirk, there is another person who doesn't know what open source means. The president of Epic.

a game that's exclusive for a few months to the PS3 is a big deal? wow..you've really gone off the fanboi deep end.

and yeah, the PS3 is open source in the sense that it supports OpenGL. But nothing hardware or software (w/in Sony's OS or their online service) is open source. you're really reaching, straw-man.

read this again (if you even read it the first time I posted it) and tell me how it applies to to the PS3.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source

why do your loins burn for me and the Xbox so? do you have to be at odds or hate something for you to be happy? maybe that's why you've got so many problems. stop trying to hate, start trying to love.

as for your Xbox being fixed (for free), told you so.

Correct me if I'm wrong the but the XBox 360 is basically a PC. So anything that's coded for the PC is easily recompiled to the 360. That was one of the reasons the original XBox was awesome.

Temporary exclusive rights to the PS3/PC is simply a funding, publishing and manufacturing delay in distributing to other platforms. Simple deductive reasoning -- and I'm sure there's a marketing ploy to try and get more people to buy the PS3. Like the drop in price.

The only thing Open Source about the PS3 is Sony's apt for supplying a SDK to take advantage of their cell-processor's enhanced functions. This is why the Sega Genesis and Sega Saturn never really did well -- they had these proprietary processors and functionality without telling the game coders how to use them.

the processor in the 360 is PowerPC, not Intel based...so not really.

Ah yes, 'forgot about that. But the front-end is still Microsoft, so you should still be able to re-compile with a few tweaks, correct?

The PS3's processor isn't even close to x86. So I'm not sure how they're claiming ease with crossing it and the PC.

you would need the correct compiler to do it, libs, etc...

its like saying.. yea.. i got the source of X program and gcc on my linux box, but i'm trying to compile a solaris binary on it.

Nah, I just thought is was funny, because I kept saying open source vs. open model. Then the guy from Epic mentioned the same error. Also, wiki can be edited by anyone, wouldn't use that as a valid source of any information. MS gets my money regardless. If its not on my 360, it will be on my laptop. I just thought it sucked because I(the 360 owner X 2) was looking forward to the game. I forgot how awesome Epic games are on the PC, I just hope mine can run it. If I just had the 360, it would piss me off. I think Mark was referring to their online model, not open GL.

I have no love for Sony after they ended my Dreamcast dreams a few years back. I have never personally owned a PS2, although I do have a PS original and a PSP. MS has consistantly kicked Sony's ass in software development(not surprising), supporting the developers, and until now hardware. We all know better hardware gets you no where without the games. I was just pointing out what I see as a closed fist around my gaming dollar that is the live service. MS does a lot to keep people happy(extending 3 year warranty), but I still feel they need to put live on par with PC gaming. I just do not think its there yet. I also do not like having to pay for games that turn into money pits later on. Make a game, stick a price tag on it and be done. Do not piece meal the games and then charge for stuff like horse armor. Your PC gamers demand more, even if the general public doesn't notice. I will be able to tell that the PC game costs 20 dollars less and has free content out the wazoo. So, I will go with the PC version.

As far as the xbox being fixed for free, it wasn't until a few days after our discussion. I love the fact that MS is commited to its customers, even if it seems somewhat reluctant at times. I will continue to support MS products on the PC or xbox.

Finally, I am personally sorry for coming off like a prick. Most, or a good majority of my writings are sarcasm. Some more evident than others. If I didn't value your opinion, I wouldn't respond to your posts. You make good points and I am always the first to admit if I am wrong.