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 Post subject: METH - THE FUCKING EVIL
PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 11:07 pm 
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yep. it sure is.

over the last 2 years id begun to use it as a tool in the studio to help boost my flow and get more hours. i completely denounced any kind of use of the stuff as a social interaction tool. then, slowly , out of nowhere, i started hanging out with "tweakers" . inside i felt scared the whole time. i felt like evil had really conquered me , yet i continued to suck that glass dick, and it wasnt even everyday. it was still random ... but, even the hobby of it was appaling to me , despite the continuation of it.

im still terrified of the blatant stupidity the stuff brings. never in my life have i been aware of such evil while continueing to support it. its obviously the worst fucking thing you can do for yourself.... and i cant believe it took me using the stuff often for a several months to wake up to its brutal nature.

its been a good while now since i dropped the shit .

im starting to see what is happening to people who havent dropped it.

its not pretty.

i got lucky , my problem wasnt so bad.... but im honestly afraid for some of the people ive been seeing/knowing around our "scene" if you will.

prayers and meditations go out to all of them--


DENOUNCE METH---IT IS THE FUCKING DEVIL--CHI IS IMPORTANT--

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 11:55 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:33 am 
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meth isn't the devil, anymore than a bottle of JD sitting on the table is; it's not going to just jump into your system.

problem is, many people let themselves get carried away with the euphoria that results from stimulating the pleasure response feedback loop in the dopamine system, that they convince themselves that they really need a particular substance to be happy; some people carry this to a point where it goes beyond psychological, and the said system is rewired, and the body responds accordingly.


side note: some psychedelics, like Ibogaine, are reputed to block that feedback loop, thus breaking addictions.

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trypt wrote:
meth isn't the devil, anymore than a bottle of JD sitting on the table is; it's not going to just jump into your system.

problem is, many people let themselves get carried away with the euphoria that results from stimulating the pleasure response feedback loop in the dopamine system, that they convince themselves that they really need a particular substance to be happy; some people carry this to a point where it goes beyond psychological, and the said system is rewired, and the body responds accordingly.


side note: some psychedelics, like Ibogaine, are reputed to block that feedback loop, thus breaking addictions.



i view habitual meth users in the same light i view habitual marijuana users.

meth hurts your body more with habit, but in my eyes theres no difference in the person. if you make a habit of using, and do not have the willpower or control to put the shit down, you are worthless.

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i'd much rather hang around potheads than tweakers.

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M@ wrote:
i'd much rather hang around potheads than tweakers.


i honestly 100% view them equally. i dislike hanging around potheads as much as i hate hanging around tweakers. they both have their ups and downs.

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i smoke pot, you love to hang around me ?

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tweakers steal your shit, potheads just steal your food. :silly:

nah, i knew a kid in HS that robbed folks for weed money. lame.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 2:17 am 
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M@ wrote:
i'd much rather hang around potheads than tweakers.


i honestly 100% view them equally. i dislike hanging around potheads as much as i hate hanging around tweakers. they both have their ups and downs.


i'd have to agree with that, based on my former post. For the most part, it IS habitual, more than anything

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M@ wrote:
i'd much rather hang around potheads than tweakers.

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Jeremy Baker wrote:
trypt wrote:
meth isn't the devil, anymore than a bottle of JD sitting on the table is; it's not going to just jump into your system.

problem is, many people let themselves get carried away with the euphoria that results from stimulating the pleasure response feedback loop in the dopamine system, that they convince themselves that they really need a particular substance to be happy; some people carry this to a point where it goes beyond psychological, and the said system is rewired, and the body responds accordingly.


side note: some psychedelics, like Ibogaine, are reputed to block that feedback loop, thus breaking addictions.



i view habitual meth users in the same light i view habitual marijuana users.

meth hurts your body more with habit, but in my eyes theres no difference in the person. if you make a habit of using, and do not have the willpower or control to put the shit down, you are worthless.

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Meth initiates a much more profound change in brain/body chemistry than marijuana. Someone who has used meth for long periods in time will experience permanent changes in the workings of their brain chemistry. Such is not the case with marijuana. Its effects reverse with time. This makes marijuana much easier to put down, as I do from time to time. I don't view a marijuana user with any more disdain than I do a drinker, or a cigarette smoker (yeah, I do all that, in moderation. The only one I have trouble putting down is cigarettes.)

Also, tweakers will, after extended usage, get the classic 'delusions of grandeur' effect. That shit can be annoying as hell. Let's just say I have a ton of freaky tweaker stories, and no freaky pothead stories...and I hang out with potheads all the time, and very rarely am I around people doing meth.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 8:25 pm 
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meth hurts your body more with habit, but in my eyes theres no difference in the person. if you make a habit of using, and do not have the willpower or control to put the shit down, you are worthless.

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Personally i think that statement is bullshit.... Someone can have the willpower to quit but if the addiction has gone too far the sucess rate of them making it the rest of their life without getting back on lowers tremendously. About 8 years ago i got into meth/speed, after trying it one night numerous times i was already sucked in. I kept it a secret (my addiction) the entire time. I would snort it with friends on occassion but they had no idea how bad i was. After the first year of use it didn't effect me the way it use too... snorting it hardly did anything and smoking it wasn't my thing so i progressed to shooting it. Yes shooting it... i was digging my own grave at a rapid pace (mind you i was only 15-16 at the time)... i was going through it like water. I shot speed for a year (total addiction was about 2 1/2 years), then people started to notice me getting sick if i went a couple of hours without. I was seeing things and freaking out on a normal basis... I had to go to rehab, i decided i needed to get off this shit for good. I went through the hardest times in my life then... cold sweats, vomiting, nightmares, hallucinations, suicidal thoughts, cutting, violent outbursts... for about 2 monthes i was sick. I was no longer the person i thought i was. I would lay in bed for days and days not moving... i got severly depressed. I have been clean from speed for 5 years now but i have never gotton over my addiction. I can smell speed if its around, i get sick to my stomach and i have to leave the party. My nose starts flaring up when i smell it or i hear someone tap a credit card on a table. Its scary because i know it would be so easy for me to fall back in. The success rate for addicted speed users is like 15% or something, most can't get over speed like they can pot. Speed is on the level with heroin in my eyes not pot. I will forever be an addict of speed nothing will change that, my mind has already been rewired i guess. I can choose to attempt to stay away from it and thats all that can save me. Its worked so far... but i can always quit pot and never have it haunt everyday of my life like speed does. Anyone who has been where i have with speed knows that quiting it after becoming addicted is a near impossible feat. Much respect to those who have and i hope to stay one of those people. I hate meth with all my heart but all the hate in my body for it can't stop me from indulging once more... I have just learned to stay away from it and i have severed friendships to get away fromt he people who did it with me. I don't fuck with people who do it and drop friends if they get into it....


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as long as you have beer, right luke ? :D


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as long as you have beer, right luke ? :D


Only pussies talk shit anonymously!





USE YOUR CLOAKING DEVICE



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former meth users who try to convince the world with that "6% success rate in rehab" bullshit stat need to give it a rest.

all drama aside : fact of the matter is, alcohol/benzos are FAR more addictive, and even those are rivalled by nicotine.

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nomdujour wrote:
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Tracking Device wrote:
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as long as you have beer, right luke ? :D


Only pussies talk shit anonymously!


pussies, or people who forgot to log in.

yea. i said that. im no longer anonymous .

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trypt wrote:
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former meth users who try to convince the world with that "6% success rate in rehab" bullshit stat need to give it a rest.

all drama aside : fact of the matter is, alcohol/benzos are FAR more addictive, and even those are rivalled by nicotine.


I thought nicotine was more addictive than alcohol. Putting alcohol down has never been problematic for me.

While they may be more addictive, their long-term effects don't seem to be as profound, nor do they seem as hard for someone to give up. I've had a couple friends kick speed, and they had a horrible time with it. One of them ended up getting back into it and overdosing himself out of the picture.

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eh meth is a tough habit to break... best of luck to anyone who is trying... i never did much, and never in social situations, so i guess that made it easy for me to drop... but i took one look at my body... stepped on the scale and recognized that shit HAD to go... It absolutely tore me to shreds... havent touched the stuff in a long long time, and i dont plan on ever touching it again...

Overall the emotional toll was pretty high too... id be absolutely manic for a day... then id drop into some deep duldrums for what seemed like eternity... then back up another day... euphoria is not a sensation i get from taking a bump...

Youre right, it is the devil... and i knew this going into it... but i had no clue how evil it could be... im glad i found out

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