But most people would only know that if they bothered to read the Qu'ran instead of listening to asses like Jerry Falwell say that Islam is a religion of violence and Muhammad is a terrorist.

Fun world religions fact of the day -- Muslim means "person of the Book."

The palestinians don't even deserve human rights, in my book.

Any society that elevates suicide bombing to a heroic level has lost all respect and credibility. Terrorist societies do not deserve human rights, they deserve a large quantity of JDAM's in thier general direction. personally, palestine is the perfect test ground for a neutron weapon.

the palestinian gov't is in direct control of the terror groups, and supports and protects them. The majority of palestinian citizens go crazy with glee when some fucktard blows himself up at a crowded shopping center or bus in israel. They are thirsty for blood and revenge. Thier words can not be trusted, they will say one thing and do another... or stage an event to further thier cause. They have no respect for truth or the lives of others.

Therefore, I have no respect for thier lives. They are just wasting oxygen, if you ask me.

I'm sick and f*cking tired of hearing about israeli citizens getting blown up on a weekly or even more frequent basis.

How can I feel any sorrow for these retards? Maybe someday when they realize that suicide bombings and long-held grudges don't get you anywhere...

And as far as US support for Israel - It's justified. We can not get away with not picking a side in this conflict, and if we pick the palestinian side, we become even more hypocritical than we already are.

GrrRrRRrrRrrr

*flame suit on*

I'm not even going to flame you because you're an ignorant bigot and no matter what I say, you're going to go on believing your ignorant beliefs.

all humans deserve human rights.

desperate people render desperate deeds.

There is a bias in the media that is why you hear one side of the story. Listen again to the "News" a little more critically. See who controls the media and look at the owners of the conglomerates.

The thing about the Palestinians is every time an agreement has been reached, they've ASSASINATED the peace broker.

Egypt, the former prime minister, etc etc

I mean hey, I love Israel but I know every one has a right to live.

I'm not angry with the Palestinians

I'm angry with Islamic Jihad

yeah...and the Jews never assassinated any peace brokers....certainly not if they were also a Jew

Yitzhak Rabin anyone?

no shit.. agreed.

Edit..

But to add to this.. Do you really thing both groups will try? I think so, but It'll take years. You really cant erase *years* of hate.. Its going to take years and years to fix this issue, and a new way of thinking. Its a shame that something as petty as an idea has caused so much trama.

I think the Palestinians could help themselves out a lot more if they chilled out. I mean, if you just go on a genocidal rampage, people will get upset at Israel, considering their high profile on the world scene. And it's not like they're China, with the ability to take a bullet for every citizen.

dude....the Israelis are just as genocidal! if they chilled out, stopped treating the Palestinians like 2nd class citizens the Palestinians would probably not feel so desperate.

BOTH sides are EQUALLY to blame and need to TAKE EQUAL STEPS to stopping this.

I think you misunderstood me.

I meant, Israel's genocidal treatment would be treated even worse, if the Palestinians weren taking it, sort of like peaceful resistance, because they're high profile.

I'm not under the illusion that Palestine can bring down the Israli infrastructure.

Remember, I've seen Palestine, I know the massive difference in living conditions between them and the Israelis.

I Agree that both sides have major flaws and have justifications for their respective actions, but the Palestinians are getting the overall shaft.

The "wall" they are constructing is going to make the Berlin Wall look like a chain link fence. It all depends on how they separate the property. This seperation will be the key to any kind of peace in the area.

If they Israelis get their way and truly isolate the Gaza strip and further hinder the Palestnians' lively hood ....just wait ..... the chaos that will ensue will be at a level of mythic porportions.

Here's something sick

I'm Jewish Christian (And let's please not get into the debate of how that can be, yet again) and I have both a pastor and a rabbi.

My pastor's take on the whole deal in Israel is somewhat sympathetic concerning the Palestinians, but also understands that Israel has rights to be upset.

Now my rabbi, he's all Jew, and the ONLY way he can perceive this entire debacle is in the terms of "God is allowing it so that he can prepare his return"

Okay. What's happening in Israel, that's a human issue, humans are doing it to each other. What makes me sick is he can't even see the Palestinians as human, he can only perceive them as necessary evils to usher in a divine plan. In essence, as nothing more than tools.

That had me completely disgusted at services on Friday.

I saw a documentary with Oliver Stone, filmed in the occupied state of palestine, and after watching I don't think there is any kind of road map to peace in place. It's all just whatever the nxt guy does, as if it was a game of chess. One side waits for a retaliation and the other side answers. I guess whoever made the first move will go out first.

Yes, but there is no organized action against the Israelis.

Rather a lot of zealots acting on their own tribal beliefs and who consequently are dictating the way we see one - whole group of people.

I liken it to if Timothy McVay had friends and they kept bombing different federal buildings in the US. It would be wrong to say that they reperesnt the US as a whole and to take action against us all.

Which is why I said I don't have anything against the Palestinians, it's some of the groups claiming to represent them in general.

Palestine is a wasteland; I can't describe the situation any other way. The streets are strewn high with rubble and trash, and children jump at you immediately in hopes of money.

Given thier behavior, and his belief, I can't blame him.

or better yet, just ignore american media.

I find the european media is less biases on various things, esp this nasty WAR that is going on over there...

what's even more amusing is to contrast the articles of an arab news source, and an israeli news source. like al jazeera and debka... the differences are amazing.

This is nothing like the Berlin wall...

In fact it is kind of the opposite.

Berlin wall was to keep you in like in jail...

Israelis wall is to keep you out. No you can not come to our country, but you are free to go anywhere else you please... with all the square km in the world they are only not allowed in about what a couple of hundred...

Diddums.

Gaza is connected to Egypt, the Palestinians are connected to Egyptians... why is this like the Berlin wall?

West bank is connected to Jordan... again how is this like Berlin?

And the reason the Palestinian refugees are treated like 2nd class citizens is that they are. Point in fact. Not because they are Palestinians, but because they are not citizens. This is not because they are Arab, Muslim or anything like that it is because they are not part of the country we are talking about.

And again I will point out to illustrate my point... 20% of voting Israelis are Arab.

In 1948 the ones that wanted to stay in peace where given citizenship. Those that sided with the Arab armies with hopes of the Jews losing and getting it all, they lost.

Big time.

I too have been to Israel and the west bank and the Golan Heights...

And yes the camps are awful, truly.

But whose fault is that?

Arafat collects approx 72 million dollars in income taxes a year from his people (15% from 150,000 working people), and was given if I remember correctly 6 or 7 billion $$$ (out of 15 promised) from the Arab countries as aid, and almost none of it was accounted for and no more money was sent.... and that’s without the EU aid and the USA...

Hmmm... maybe that shipment of weapons from Iran...



Or maybe...

the palestinians fuked themselves i feel sorry for the rest of the world havin to put up with everyone in the middle east