interesting.....

http://factcheck.org/article344.html

you'll blame him for a hurricane but call people kooks for blaming him for 9-11?

:retard:

I don't blame Bush solely for 9-11 in the sense that he planned it(zomg secret government plans to rule us all!), but I think he's partly to blame for letting it happen.

did you even open the link, let alone read the article?

::coughskullnbonescough::

would it be crazy to assume that had a major hurricane hit Cambridge,MA, the response would've been much more timely?

that article is a fucking crock.


let's look at it from a scientific perspective, rather than a political one...

levees were built, from the first settlement (French) at the time New Orleans was founded; and many times over, they've been reinforced.

however, if you understand how storm systems in the gulf operate, and the nature of rivers and streams of the earth (how they are all interconnected in some fashion), you'd know that all man has done is upset the natural balance; Bush could drop 150 gazillion dollars to reinforce the levees, and that still won't prevent massive flooding, because New Orleans is somewhat shaped like a bowl, and a hurricane will occaisionally make its way up the Mississippi, as it's a nice feeding path. Also take into account, that rivers like to "jump" (shift position), from time to time, and levees don't do anything for that....and because sedimentary rocks and sand get eroded/washed away over time, cities like New Orleans that are built along major riverways have the tendency to sink.

Mother Nature will have her way, and technology isn't going to stop her.

Is Bush to blame for the NOLA flooding?

no.

that would be like saying, is he responsible for detroit losing to san antonio.

go spurs!!!!!!!

I don't know anything about how adequate spending was on levees and such, but I am familiar with what polymer just said, which is true.

However, the inadequate federal response after the levee broke is what galls me. How much Bush or any one person is to blame for that, I don't know. But there's plenty of blame to go around.

I think Bush is responsible for the way the situation was handled. They let it get out of control for a reason. Now we are bringing in Mexican troops to remove people from their homes. If I'm self suficient as any man should be, does that give the national death sqaud the right to remove me at gun point from my home?

How come more Americans aren' upset? Is our culture really this numbing?

Um, hurricanes don't really "make [their] way up the Mississippi." They are kind of big to be doing that.



And the Mississippi isn't really moving around near New Orleans BECAUSE we are artificially preventing it. If it was moving around, things wouldn't be as developed as they are (or were, perhaps).

National Death Squad? Oh god here comes the tinfoil hat tirade once again.

"National death squad"???

I want to support you bro, but jesus, talk like you have some sense.











*hides from the NDS*

imo, the region was looked over. over the past four years, cities around there begged for federal funding to fix/stengthen the levees and *one hundred year-old pumps* (no fucking wonder they failed). the bush admin denied funding, and spent the money on the war instead. just last year, there was a program on tv (cant remember if it was discovery or nova, or what) that basically outlined what would happen if i strong class three or higher would hit that specific area - it basically predicted what we are living with right now. that given, id say bush (and his administration) is to be blamed - at least partially.

they're removing people who are too stupid to realize it's not safe to live there. And the only times they're using force or at gun point is when they're met with force. At least 60% of the city is still flooded and will remain so for the next few weeks/months. There are thousands of dead bodies, human waste, trash, etc, etc...all of that is gonna be a fuck load of disease.


I saw a video this morning of cops tackling an old lady and at first I was like WTF? but then it showed the video again and the dumb bitch had a gun. she's lucking she wasn't shot.

i hate this thread.

I didn't literally mean "make its way up the mississippi", as in follow all the way up to Minnesota. I merely implied that a large body of water going inland, such as the mississippi river, will occaisionally attract a low pressure system (i.e. hurricane)...it's fundamentals of electricity.

and you are aware that rivers do jump? (something I was taught in class while living in Harvey) building a city around it won't prevent that.

really? so then why is everyone bitching at FEMA?

Obviously these people do need the government to tell them what to do because they're too stupid/foolish to leave a dangerous area on their own.

The government is gonna have enough to worry about in that area w/o having to worry if John Q. Citizen is safe and healthy just because he didn't want to leave his house.

Get them all out, fix the area w/o having to worry about civilian's safety, let them come back in when it's safe.

the levee's were blown, just like in 1927.

http://www.laweekly.com/ink/05/42/after-ehrenreich.php

thanks...that made my weekend. have a good one!

this is true, levees aren't substantial structures for anything over a certain amount of normal flooding. they basically turn to mud after a certain amount of saturation.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 82,00.html

http://getyouracton.com/blog/?p=63


http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=8158

http://www.rense.com/general67/painful.htm

they SHOULD be taking guns away from the police...
http://heraldsun.news.com.au/common/sto ... 02,00.html
confirmed by CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/04/katrin ... index.html