I'd frankly rather shell out another 20 bucks

I just think it's a healthier and probably somewhat more effective method of taking the drug to wait and allow your body some R&R between rolls. Plus, it saves you that extra 20 without having to shove something in your ass and lay on your side for 30 minutes until the SOB dissolves.

haha

well im not disputing what you said lane. i agree. i have never had the desire to increase the drug's intensity level to a point where i felt i should consume it rectally.

and i think its becoming pretty close to 'proven' that the method of action of mdma in the brain neccessitates adequate time to recover, repair, and replenish or else notable and lasting consequences could indeed occurr.

Haha... you said "consume it rectally."

That just brings up evil disgusting images in my mind...

I agree with ya wholeheartedly Jeremy. Let the e-tards have their anal pill fun and degenerate their brain to mush.

let's please try to keep this on the topic of physical reactions, and not delve into the economics.

andy

there are ways of making it burn less and such...

put a condom on your finger... it feels weird if its lubed... but you dont get stinky finger... and if by chance your finger finds its way in your mouth sometime later that night... you wont have horrible stomach problems for the next week.... goes in easier... and no reason to shove it way up there... just kinda get it past the threshold... ive had friends do this their second times with rest inbetween times they did it... about 3 month... their reactions were significantly different...

to prevent the burning you could get a crucible and crush it up then put the contents into a small gelcap... it dissolves fast so the feeling of "whoo i have something in my ass and i need to shit it out" isnt overwhelming for more then a few minutes... i have to recommend cleanliness and even with a barrier method id wash hands throughly afterwards.... to prevent burning get up... dance around... go for a jog... play some basketball... helps to
a) break up what is in there
b) passes the time

the comment of "once you get to the point of ______ its a problem" is entirely not true... there are different methods of taking different drugs... and this is something that should be discussed... and in an adult manner... its not like you just shove it blindly up there... most importantly be safe... and remind yourself you are "testing a new method" and you need to be careful because youre reaction will not be the same... feel free to im me if you have any questions or concerns

and in all my reading about it... the lining of the rectum is different then the stomach and dont lose any of the chemical in digestion... your stomach has a real thick lined wall... rectum however is not and has more of a direct access to your bloodstream... basically exactly like ben and jeremy said...

But Jeremy's other point was that MDMA reaction doesn't depend so much on how fast it gets in your blood as how it acts on your brain. I agree that to a point, the more of the chemical in your blood = more of the chemical reaching your brain, but basically it's still going to mess with the reserves of serotonin and dopamine that you already have built up. Thus, I think the difference would be neglible and don't care enough to experiment myself and try it.

Whoever posted this (btw, dave, the IP address of the poster does not match up with your account, fyi), is pretty damned ignorant.

I don't care if the general discussion post about schwag was a joke or not. It was downright stupid, and I don't want that shit on the board.

Next, this is the harm reduction forum - as Andy said, the concept harm reduction is to present all of the information you can on a topic (in this case, usually drug related, though anything can really go in this forum) and let the person making the decision make it with all of the information possible.

To compare the two posts is utterly ridiculous and blatantly shows a lack of intelligence not far beyond: "the topics were about drugs....duuuuhhhhh....i likes da drugss..."

Grow up and get your panties out of a wad.

And just to note, I would send this via PM, but I do not know who posted this - as I said, the information doesn't line up.

To everyone who is trying to carry on an intelligent conversation here, sorry to barge into the post like this.

Please carry on.

Ben

I disagree - Have you ever taken more than one pill at a time? Do the effects maintain to be the same because of the fact that there is a certain set of "reserves" that are built up?

Like I said in my first reply, it had been a while each time, so I didn't really have anything to directly compare it to as far as the level of the effects.

Ben

I have taken more than one pill, but never like two at once. I'm guessing the effect is probably different?...

when you would take the second one, did you peak higher than the peak of the first? or did you peak higher than you would if you took only one pill?

the point i'm getting at is that there isn't a certain amount that you can feel the effects of the drug - like a plateau - and once you reach that point can't go further. i'm saying that if "plugging" it allows for the absorbtion of a greater amount of the drug, then the effects will be greater - something that you had insinuated wouldn't be the case - unless i am misunderstood.

ben

I didn't think it would make enough of a difference for me to actually care enough to shove something up my ass... but I guess to someone really interested in getting the full effect of something, it might be a little difference.

My use of x has been largely limited to occassional recreational use. I never saw any real reason to experiment with different ways of taking it.

I have a feeling that if you consumed enough MDMA to saturate the system, that you would die. Hence, if you take more and more, then more and more will get to your brain (up to the point of saturation and death). If you take it via a method that leads to less metabolic breakdown, then more will get to your brain.

cool - makes sense and i can respect that - i was just trying to figure out where you were coming from on your statement...

ben

I guess I just... pulled it out of my ass? <rimshot>

it was ME who made the 'guest' post

I had the post typed out, got disconnected, reconnected, and immediately (and forgetfully) posted it without re-registering.

I also made the post that got deleted

a comparison can easily be drawn between your original post and the post I made that got deleted--that's the point I'm making--did you get a chance to read the deleted post??

not so much the schwag one --I understand the difference

^^me too, obviously some sort of technical difficulties^^

*hopes this doesnt post as guest*

BAND!!!
oh wait... WTF!!?

BALEETED!

i mean...

DELTEATED!

umm....

deltaco?...

Huh?

And so it makes more sense

What were the contents of the post that you made that we deleted? I'm not aware of one, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. If it was wrongfully deleted, I will be the first to apologize, but I'd like to know what was in it first.

ben

You are very right. Good point. But I still might think twice about shaking your hand at a party if you even mildly look goofed up. =)

i didn't make this post because I am so hard up for rolling harder that Im resorting to plugging pills, i almost never roll. I just like sticking things in my butt is all.

I KNEW IT!

You = Butt